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hey guys

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how's it going uh long time no see it's

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been a while

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uh how is everyone hope everyone's good

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i see that some of you guys are here in

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the chat

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so yeah another day another interview

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without further ado my friend

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hey we're going down to the air b street

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make some rock and roll

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love it man totally trying to get you to

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bust out laughing did you see me down

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there

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i i noticed some movement

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i had my shirt off i was going like this

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so how are you bro had a good day yeah

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good day good day i'm feeling good today

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um

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just got done talking to jaz shaw

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uh on my channel that's um when i was

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just first starting my channel he was

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very supportive of me

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and did like uh a little piece with me

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and i really appreciated that

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because you know at that time like you

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need and are looking for support

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yeah um but you don't want to beg or

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anything either and he was just like all

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on his own

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just so supportive and um

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i never forget people know that kind of

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stuff that's huge to me

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i pretty much had something similar with

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james and doley from engaging the

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phenomenon and like

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i i i was just blown away by like

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what you know this guy is saying all

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these nice things about me and i've

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really done a lot and it's just like

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why why i cannot thank him enough

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really good dude really yeah um the more

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i get to know him as well

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um you know the more

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impressed and happy i am that there's

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people like him out there

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yeah man he's going to be big for

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through years and years to come in this

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subject

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man his knowledge is phenomenal yeah you

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know he never ceases to amaze me i'll

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see him talking about another aspect

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that i've not seen him speak on before

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and he just

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just so knowledgeable and yeah

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yeah so hey so tell me a bit more about

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the the chat with jazz because wasn't

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jazz on vacation recently or is he back

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now do you know

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yeah he's back now he went fishing um

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caught some fish was hoping to see ufos

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did not

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but did see one he saw a tic tac

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uh when he got home really

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genuine sighting yeah whoa

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he he took like video and pictures of it

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i guess it's

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not that great or whatever but you know

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you can tell

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when somebody's convicted about

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something they saw

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you can just tell like it's not someone

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reaching

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it's like you can see the conviction in

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him

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when he's telling the story like that's

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amazing

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where's he based what state is he uh new

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oh right okay yeah i mean i had no idea

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wow

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yeah so and that's the second thing he

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said he saw in six months

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a little like me where i just started

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seeing stuff all the sudden

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hey scott good to see you scott brown

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thank you so much mate

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thank you so much definitely good to see

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all of you in here

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josh i i'm not sure

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super super nice yep

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what's up oh my god it's like we have

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the same chat group

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[Laughter]

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man the colleagues are they're good

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they're good guys and gals

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supporters yeah love it love it wouldn't

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be anywhere without that

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exactly man that's why um i almost wish

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we could have every single one of them

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join us like

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around the screen and just you're like

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that'd be awesome man yeah

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so where should we go hey did you like

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the archive background i did this

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because you spent so much time digging

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in documents i thought you

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yeah know mean i see one back there that

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was looks really interesting to me

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you could have left them a bit tidy i

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don't know it's quite quite neat but

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how do you tell what any of them are

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dude it's a intuition thing

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i just closed my eyes and reach out

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[Laughter]

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love it say did you do a doc of the day

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today with uh jazz

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i did not no i took a break from the

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docs today because i've been going a

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little

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uh overboard for a couple days in a row

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i noticed i woke up this morning and

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checked my instagram and it was like oh

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sean's posted a doc and then i'm

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scrolling down oh

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there's another one oh and another i

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don't know like dude that's incredible

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well i have so many of those and really

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like post them on instagram so

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like i said so i can get closure so i

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can just move on

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yeah and they're not just hanging around

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and nobody

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sees them or that may want to or

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whatever so i'm just posting them on

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it is what it is no backstory or

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anything i'll just tell you what it is

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like one project stork no one ever talks

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about it

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yeah you look at those documents and

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they're like what the hell

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is this like i can't even make sense of

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it really it's tough

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it's a lot of code stuff um

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you know but whatever i just put it on

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there you know and that's what it is and

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i got more coming i'll do that

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uh because honestly to make a story

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around

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all these uh would take me forever so

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yeah maybe i'll keep the the good ones

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for doc of the day or something or

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but yeah doc of the day yeah christopher

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what the heck is that i like that too

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yeah

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you're the only channel that has those

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kind of features like

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you know repeating through every kind of

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episode or into i think that's really

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oh thanks man breaks it up a bit as well

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you know i feel a bit like sometimes i

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just sit here mundane

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i don't even do this you know like when

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people are speaking

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and switch screens like

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i ain't got time for all that i rather

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focus on the talk here

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exactly i completely agree so and like i

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don't like this one either

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ah that's a bit too close to that yeah

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you know well if we ever make it big we

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can hire someone to do all that stuff

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for us

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yeah exactly yeah that's a good point

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actually well just get

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a makeup artist to make it look pretty

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cover my pimples

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yeah it's like i'm a real man i got

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pimples on my face

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yeah so um

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yeah the the documents are crazy i

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posted that um

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the whole study from university colorado

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wow which is just uh a bust really

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looking at it you're just disappointed

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it's like

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it was a classic don't think it's

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anything that's what happens though with

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those documents i did it years ago so

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before i had any social media presence

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or anything so

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i'd go through these documents i'd sit

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at the desk i'm at now

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for hours on end and i'd come across

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something and

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i'd be like i've got no one to share

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these weird and wonderful stories and

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things with and

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that's why i love it that you're able to

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do that um

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this is interesting vinnie do you use

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purple shampoo

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that's interesting well it's interesting

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yes i have been actually

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how can you tell i know maybe i don't

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when my blonde's almost out so i'm

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thinking about maybe going a different

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oh no i'm thinking going like pink or

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green or something

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i don't think i can hang out with you if

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you're not blonde you're fitting

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no no i needed a blonde friend like i

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couple gray hairs great redheads a

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redhead friend

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ah um but you were the blonde friend so

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if you change i gotta fill that spot and

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i already have a brunette

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well i could i could choose another

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color and then just wear a blonde wig

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when i speak to you

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i can even have a long one if that's

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your preference you're that you're that

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kind of guy

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where you get a 10 minute break and you

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have to use it 10 minutes before you

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that's brilliant you can do whatever you

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want i love you whatever color

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love you too brother i love you too man

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so let's do a little bit of looking at

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some documents because i feel like i i i

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needed to bring something

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and this just keeps cropping back up in

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the in conversation across

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twitter and everything is

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oh i gotta share my screen i was getting

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all ready to click a button and be all

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like

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tala here we go

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a tip the atip slides which

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we mentioned before we came on a tip

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slide 9 gets a lot of

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or a lot more talk than the other slides

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so what i thought we'd do is just go

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through them and just see what comes to

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mind because

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they're quite vague and i just thought

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let's just see

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so should we do like an inkblot thing

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look at that

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that's louis lozando here we go

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so uh inform the deputy secretary of

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defense of ongoing initiatives relating

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to atip well that's pretty

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straightforward there's nothing

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bizarre about that request establishment

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of a restricted special access program

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with a bigoted access list for specific

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portions of atip

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now what i got from this is that they're

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trying to push atip to become its own

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standalone sap special access program

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where it has more

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depth that it can hold back information

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and stuff like that

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that's kind of what i've i've heard that

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sort of said and thrown around as well

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what do you think

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yeah i could see that i also see maybe

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um they're trying to flush out

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individual aspects of the program right

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right yeah some more people working

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there so yeah it seems like they're

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trying to

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build it up for sure yeah that's

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interesting

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but i mean again it's just a small

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bullet point so it really probably could

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be read in multiple ways

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yeah yeah it does seem for specific

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portions of atip yes so there's certain

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aspects of

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a tip um

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that yeah uh sap

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that's cool i'd love to know which

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specific portions because we know they

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touched on

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every aspect of the phenomena yeah i'd

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love to know which ones they want to

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throw into the special access program

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[Laughter]

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yeah you get some more bigoted access

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lists for the bigfoot part of eight tips

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yeti thing people have actually seen

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that that's crazy yeah

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yeah man i could do it i i used to love

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looking into that stuff years ago as

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well i could do a probably do a whole

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show on on

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on bigfoot and yeti but yeah definitely

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another time

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they're gonna hear your chest it's not

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that bad it's not like

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it's a [\h__\h] rug

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right next bullet i'm just trying to get

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your viewers count up here

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you know you take the shirt off usually

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that works i don't know yeah look at

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that boost

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dude dude dead buds are hot these days

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okay sorry we're getting off track all

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right points all good

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so reassign billets resources and

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recommend personnel

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to a dedicated dod a tip support office

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so again it just looks like they're

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trying to increase their

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yep their everything staffing resources

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functions

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like a logistics office they're trying

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to get yeah yeah

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and then finally establish a dod at

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reporting chain of command i mean

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again great i mean yeah

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straightforward or look mission

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statement

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to further identify understand and take

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advantage of a generation of highly

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advanced technologies and principles

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that may be currently employed by other

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countries

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actors or entities and use this

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technology to the benefit of the

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department of

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department and provide the us with a

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decisive advantage over adversaries and

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threats hmm yeah that's it

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that's iffy huh what do you think yeah

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you know what it reminds me of we want

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this technology we want to be the best

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which i guess is normal from a you know

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a military

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dod standpoint but it's a bit brazen and

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beat my chest i am the best take

355
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advantage of

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really reminds me of

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is um the a tick report

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and one before that where they're

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talking about

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um looking into the possibility of using

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the phenomenon

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against each other in psychological

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warfare

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or if you're able to create it and then

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use it against each other

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this seems like kind of

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it falls on that yeah absolutely and

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that was that the conversation you had

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with

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um daniel um daniel

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yes daniel daniel um i

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was going through a lot of that stuff

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before he hopped on

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yeah uh yeah because i think i was on

375
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for a little part of that wasn't i

376
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that's right yeah

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yeah i forgot i'm on you i feel like i

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live on youtube half the time

379
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yeah i know it gets blurry yeah where's

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my house

381
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it is in the filing cabinet right yeah

382
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oh yeah yeah

383
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no but that's what it's that's what it

384
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sounds like to me it's always

385
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uh take advantage yeah so how can we

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take this beautiful

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thing and use it against other people

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much less like

389
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you know nuclear weapons and and other

390
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uh

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major um defense complex issues

392
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yeah but it's funny the way they say

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currently employed by other countries

394
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and actors i mean i can see

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currently employed by entities when

396
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you're talking about some really highly

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advanced technology but

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countries and actors i mean countries

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entities could also be

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like uh uh terrorism

401
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a terrorist group yeah that's true we

402
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don't have to jump to

403
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but alien entities yeah there's

404
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obviously a clear

405
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a clear thing happening at this point in

406
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the slides

407
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yeah where they're not uh

408
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trying to be too obvious yeah so it's

409
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correct

410
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a signal had a good comment yeah

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entities just means non-government

412
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actors yeah yeah

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that's the thing it can be read so many

414
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ways and when the first time i read it i

415
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was like wait a minute

416
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you know what what are they trying to

417
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say are they insinuating anything

418
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because

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it's so vague sounds like a blanket

420
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statement like an other box like another

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bin

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yeah uh a-tip vision an integrated

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capability that provides the department

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with beyond

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next-generation technologies and

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understanding particularly in the areas

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of aerospace so that's pretty

428
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straightforward that one i can

429
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you know i can sort of see what they're

430
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trying to say with that you know

431
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straight-up technologies whether it's

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not just aerospace

433
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or craft it may be abilities and

434
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you know it's

435
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yeah it does give you yeah they're all

436
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behind vinny

437
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yeah they're over here yeah uh see

438
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is nasa you know nasa

439
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we're doing something for nasa which is

440
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interesting because

441
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they are so far ahead at this point

442
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with aerospace engineering and

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developing

444
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uh their x plane series and all that

445
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yeah

446
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so and again what we're taking from this

447
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almost

448
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is like a project moon does kind of

449
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thing right where

450
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they're trying to procure the

451
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technologies and take advantage of them

452
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against adversaries

453
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and where are they getting it from yeah

454
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but it also

455
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because it says at the end particularly

456
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in the areas of aerospace that means

457
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at the previous part they're talking

458
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about various types of technologies and

459
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this comment here from south coast media

460
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productions does it encompass remote

461
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viewing well

462
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i think it possibly could cover other

463
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aspects

464
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other than physical objects and craft it

465
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could cover remote viewing it could

466
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cover psychological

467
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physiological warfare you know why not

468
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i mean they are technologies that sean

469
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has spoken about before on his

470
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channel you know yeah most definitely so

471
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it's a possibility it's unclear though

472
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there we go at preliminary assessments

473
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they like their preliminary assessments

474
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in their government don't they

475
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yeah realization that many of the

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findings if used against the united

477
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states may prove to be decisive game

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changers for our country

479
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well we've heard that term game changes

480
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thrown about an awful lot haven't we you

481
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know

482
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thinking about

483
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but again that's the same thing as a

484
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report made in 1952 man

485
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you know so what's the deal here are you

486
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still really trying to work out

487
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those same things like you you're still

488
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trying to figure out if you can use this

489
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against people

490
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or it's strange there's something about

491
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that i just don't buy

492
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you know yeah just because it's been so

493
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long

494
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with the same question you know

495
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but granted that question kind of

496
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disappeared over the course of decades

497
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it did but then they must have still

498
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been asked

499
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somewhere maybe they just did it a

500
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better job of hiding it somewhere

501
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yeah maybe you know well i never went to

502
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the fdca

503
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federal district something

504
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civilian something yeah this is the

505
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thing as well which again you've covered

506
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quite a few times is the amount of times

507
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that some of these agencies and smaller

508
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departments

509
00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:09,200
have changed names over and over again i

510
00:19:11,909 --> 00:19:10,640
mean that's going to cause confusion

511
00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:11,919
when you're digging for stuff because

512
00:19:15,029 --> 00:19:13,280
you're looking at one name you should be

513
00:19:16,549 --> 00:19:15,039
looking at another and it changes here

514
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:16,559
and it changes there well

515
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:19,440
here's a good example so the fdca or

516
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whatever the

517
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mass hysteria psychological part um etip

518
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and everybody said

519
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:27,440
you know that's their wheelhouse let's

520
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:28,880
give that part to them

521
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so that wasn't a part of their study or

522
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whatever

523
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:34,400
and so you're thinking like okay i know

524
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where this went

525
00:19:41,029 --> 00:19:38,720
start digging and you find another

526
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:41,039
document maybe 15 minutes later

527
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where um the guy

528
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,840
who wound up taking it to university

529
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,440
colorado that doctor what's the name

530
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robertson

531
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or with the c i forget what his name is

532
00:20:01,270 --> 00:19:58,480
condon got the condom report i always

533
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:01,280
mix those two up robertson

534
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:04,559
yeah but anyways uh the one of those two

535
00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:07,840
you got involved and pretty much took

536
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that

537
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part away from fdca so it it's like

538
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:13,200
on the one hand you're thinking you

539
00:20:17,590 --> 00:20:15,280
found something just a few minutes later

540
00:20:19,430 --> 00:20:17,600
it blows up in your face but it seems to

541
00:20:21,110 --> 00:20:19,440
be i totally agree that's what

542
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,120
i used to like i said i used to spend

543
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hours and days nights just buried in

544
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,640
those documents you feel like you've got

545
00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:26,640
so far down towards you're going to get

546
00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:27,520
something

547
00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:29,919
boom brick wall you've got to crawl

548
00:20:32,630 --> 00:20:31,360
right back out of that rabbit hob

549
00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:32,640
and then you got to go down another one

550
00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:35,200
start all over again the way i try to do

551
00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,960
is just have a grounding of something

552
00:20:42,870 --> 00:20:41,679
like a document let's say and i'll read

553
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through it

554
00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,799
and i'll let myself branch out in the

555
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different directions it can go

556
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with the different tips or possible

557
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,440
clues

558
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and when i'm i'm feeling pretty

559
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confident that

560
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,840
i found something or didn't then i just

561
00:21:00,870 --> 00:20:57,440
bring it back into the core

562
00:21:02,870 --> 00:21:00,880
yeah you know so i never go too far off

563
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,880
anywhere and just find myself on mars

564
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,240
with a bunch of documents that don't

565
00:21:07,110 --> 00:21:05,760
make sense you know okay but listen

566
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:07,120
you're still able to do things like

567
00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,600
you've just

568
00:21:11,430 --> 00:21:09,840
proved to us right now is you're seeing

569
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:11,440
correlation between things back in the

570
00:21:15,430 --> 00:21:13,840
50s and 60s that relate and almost sound

571
00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:15,440
the same to now that's that's got to be

572
00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:16,000
a benefit

573
00:21:22,149 --> 00:21:19,039
isn't it you know that's awful that's

574
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:22,159
that's true um and that's why the

575
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:25,280
report that has come out recently

576
00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:29,760
i stand by it is a positive

577
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:32,960
because it's so much different than

578
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:36,480
any of the other reports i read is it

579
00:21:40,789 --> 00:21:38,799
you know uh some big disclosure where

580
00:21:42,870 --> 00:21:40,799
they're giving you cases and

581
00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:42,880
showing you pictures and stuff first of

582
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,320
all i don't think that would do anything

583
00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:45,840
for disclosure

584
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:48,880
um because it's just two cases out of so

585
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:49,600
many

586
00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:53,120
yeah but it

587
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:56,400
you know they were clear in 144

588
00:22:01,830 --> 00:21:59,760
identified one well

589
00:22:03,430 --> 00:22:01,840
we gotta study more you know and that's

590
00:22:05,669 --> 00:22:03,440
an honest answer to me

591
00:22:07,750 --> 00:22:05,679
no of course you know but the next thing

592
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:07,760
i would want is them to just not even

593
00:22:11,190 --> 00:22:08,640
mention

594
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,200
anything in the report unless it's

595
00:22:17,830 --> 00:22:15,110
you know yeah i don't want to hear about

596
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:17,840
helicopters or planes or flares or

597
00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:19,919
any of that stuff just keep that out of

598
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,960
it who cares

599
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:23,039
just tell me what you got on what's

600
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:24,320
unidentified

601
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:25,919
that's the funny thing is that the

602
00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:27,919
unidentified or the unknown

603
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,480
section was like the last one on that

604
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:32,640
list which is like come on man

605
00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:35,840
yeah i mean i guess yeah it's not that

606
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:38,240
when the whole the whole number part of

607
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,520
the report

608
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:41,600
says a completely different story like

609
00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:43,200
they're telling two different stories

610
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:43,840
with the

611
00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:47,440
numbers and the words yeah yeah

612
00:22:54,789 --> 00:22:51,440
um right before we move on to the next

613
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,799
bullet points this is where i should be

614
00:22:58,390 --> 00:22:55,600
playing that we

615
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:58,400
have a guest knock knock knock you only

616
00:23:00,390 --> 00:22:58,960
bring it up

617
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:00,400
yeah please dude can you show your

618
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:02,960
screen i don't know if i can actually

619
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:03,600
never mind

620
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:05,520
don't worry don't worry but we have a

621
00:23:09,909 --> 00:23:06,640
guest

622
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,919
oh wait yeah probably good go on

623
00:23:13,590 --> 00:23:12,080
if you can do it do it because i love it

624
00:23:15,530 --> 00:23:13,600
all right i should have tapped you up

625
00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,540
for these before we even started

626
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,760
[Laughter]

627
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:20,640
let's see here i don't know if it'll let

628
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:21,520
me share the

629
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:24,559
audio i think we've killed the vibe now

630
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:25,039
anyway

631
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:28,480
yeah it's over move on

632
00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,679
look who it is oh my god what's up guys

633
00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,600
all right yeah that's my time it was

634
00:23:38,390 --> 00:23:36,320
nice to meet you and talk to you

635
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:38,400
are you going to leave now i never

636
00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:39,760
signed up for three no

637
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:43,919
threesome thing okay how are you max

638
00:23:47,269 --> 00:23:46,960
hey uh sean hey vinnie and sean don't

639
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,279
lie

640
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,279
with that we've done lots of threesomes

641
00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:50,799
together yeah

642
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:54,240
yeah yeah all um we're very comfortable

643
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:54,480
with

644
00:24:00,310 --> 00:23:58,159
each other same stuff exactly exactly

645
00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:00,320
yeah oh boy yeah if you saw they're uh

646
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:01,679
never i'm not even gonna get it

647
00:24:06,870 --> 00:24:03,520
let's keep it clean guys we'll keep that

648
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:06,880
for the the signal chat

649
00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:09,039
i will only say they call him snorkel

650
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:17,350
anyway let's oh max you really

651
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:20,080
don't know me do you i invented the

652
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:21,440
snorkel

653
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:24,480
that's true that's true so max we've

654
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,159
just been going through the atip slides

655
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:28,559
max and trying to just

656
00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:30,080
look at the bullet points because

657
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:31,600
they're quite vague and just see what

658
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,159
you think

659
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,120
you know realization that many of the

660
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:37,120
findings if used against the united

661
00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,520
states may prove to be decisive

662
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:42,000
games changers for our country

663
00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:43,440
preliminary evidence

664
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:44,720
go for that first one what do you make

665
00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:47,200
of that first bullet point realization

666
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,600
that

667
00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:50,240
many of the findings if used against the

668
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:52,320
united states may prove

669
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:55,600
to be decisive game changers for

670
00:25:03,990 --> 00:25:00,320
our country but whose country uh

671
00:25:06,549 --> 00:25:04,000
well america right but

672
00:25:08,950 --> 00:25:06,559
look if you read it the realization that

673
00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:08,960
many of the fightings if used against

674
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:12,559
the united states against

675
00:25:15,909 --> 00:25:14,960
yes so that's okay that could be

676
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:15,919
adversary

677
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:19,200
adversarial it could be something else

678
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:20,480
this is what we're doing this is why

679
00:25:24,390 --> 00:25:22,400
we're going through these vague

680
00:25:26,070 --> 00:25:24,400
bullet points because they don't there's

681
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:26,080
no clarity to them in what they're

682
00:25:28,149 --> 00:25:27,919
actually saying to me i find it i find

683
00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:28,159
it

684
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:31,279
very vague actually yeah but what are

685
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:31,679
they

686
00:25:37,909 --> 00:25:36,400
saying in the first part realization

687
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:37,919
that many of the findings

688
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:40,080
so many of the findings let's say they

689
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:42,080
could be plans for a

690
00:25:46,470 --> 00:25:44,320
sauce anti-gravity saucer so the

691
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,480
realization of that finding

692
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,720
meaning they found it and they realized

693
00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:50,880
that they created it

694
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:54,159
we're done yeah

695
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:57,200
okay maybe so if i if i understand this

696
00:26:02,390 --> 00:25:58,000
correctly

697
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,190
many of the findings that that means

698
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:06,880
findings the u.s

699
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:11,120
found right specifically i guess

700
00:26:16,070 --> 00:26:14,159
yeah yeah could be used against the

701
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:16,080
united states so what they found

702
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,640
could be a weapon against the united

703
00:26:23,350 --> 00:26:20,000
states

704
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:23,360
and it could be decisive

705
00:26:30,230 --> 00:26:27,760
for the united states so if i

706
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:30,240
understand that correctly if they turn

707
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:30,880
around

708
00:26:37,830 --> 00:26:34,880
weapon

709
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:37,840
that is used against them against the

710
00:26:41,430 --> 00:26:39,440
adversary

711
00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:41,440
am i right but that's the thing there's

712
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,720
no right and wrong because it's

713
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,320
speculation about what this

714
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,320
actually means you know it's very

715
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:48,320
critical it is but it could it could

716
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:49,200
also mean

717
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:51,120
speculating here that if used against

718
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,960
could mean something internal within the

719
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:54,159
u.s that's buried in a

720
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:56,640
in a program could be used against the

721
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:57,600
rest of the us

722
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:00,880
we don't know what it implies but yeah

723
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:03,360
other questions it's just the u.s or

724
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:04,960
maybe other countries too

725
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:06,880
could well be it could work in the world

726
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:08,880
i would imagine if it could be the us

727
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,240
right right yeah so

728
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:14,960
very cryptic very so let's move on to

729
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:15,679
the next one

730
00:27:20,310 --> 00:27:17,840
preliminary evidence indicates that the

731
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:20,320
united states is incapable of defending

732
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:21,200
itself towards

733
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:24,080
some of these technologies okay well

734
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:25,600
that's a bit more straightforward

735
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:26,480
because

736
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:29,679
yeah but that means that uh

737
00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,360
we are talking about weapons

738
00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:35,440
well it's objects that are you know

739
00:27:37,909 --> 00:27:37,120
flying in sensitive airspace with

740
00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:37,919
impunity

741
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:40,960
um interacting with nuclear facilities

742
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,240
all that shebang that we're talking

743
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:43,760
about at the moment sure sure but that

744
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,960
that doesn't mean it

745
00:27:48,389 --> 00:27:47,760
it it's it's aggressive right no not at

746
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,399
all

747
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,960
but i think what it's saying is that

748
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,480
they don't know they're there until

749
00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:54,000
they're there

750
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,480
you know pretty much if they had to do

751
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,080
if they wanted to be violent

752
00:28:01,510 --> 00:27:59,600
yeah it's moving it's moving with

753
00:28:02,310 --> 00:28:01,520
impunity and if you're moved with

754
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:02,320
impunity

755
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:05,360
and and say they have weapons they can

756
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,360
use the weapons with impunity yeah

757
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,480
exactly

758
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:10,320
so that i think that one's a little bit

759
00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:12,000
more straightforward but still not

760
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,360
100 clear yeah so

761
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,600
let's move on to the next one several

762
00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:19,919
unconventional findings require further

763
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:21,120
investigation

764
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:23,039
in order to determine the full scope of

765
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:24,799
the threat and their capabilities to be

766
00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:25,200
either

767
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:28,799
exploited or defeated so i guess that's

768
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:29,760
saying

769
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:31,760
can we utilize it or do we just have to

770
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:33,840
get rid of it

771
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:37,679
you know do they exploit it well

772
00:28:44,549 --> 00:28:41,120
i i think um we already know uh

773
00:28:47,750 --> 00:28:44,559
some of the findings are being used

774
00:28:51,430 --> 00:28:47,760
by lockheed martin or skunk works

775
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,440
um but that's you know that that's also

776
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:52,720
very vague

777
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:55,440
but for for example uh former senator

778
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:56,799
harry reid

779
00:29:03,510 --> 00:29:00,159
definitely said um you know he was

780
00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:03,520
trying to look into that yeah he got

781
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:06,399
stonewalled looking through these old

782
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:07,200
documents

783
00:29:14,470 --> 00:29:10,840
it's it almost seems like

784
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:14,480
um like lockheed no matter

785
00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:17,520
who the almost the contract went to

786
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:20,080
for this different stuff like yeah he'd

787
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,159
still seem to have some sort of like

788
00:29:27,430 --> 00:29:24,320
consultant role at least

789
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:27,440
yeah i think a few of those um

790
00:29:30,789 --> 00:29:30,559
defense aides you know northrop grumman

791
00:29:32,950 --> 00:29:30,799
is

792
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,960
in a very similar position boeing

793
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:34,320
phantomworks has been

794
00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:36,240
in a similar position to lockheed martin

795
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,840
throughout the years as well

796
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:39,039
you know people always go back to

797
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:40,480
lockheed martin but i think they look

798
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:42,320
over the other two big players

799
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:45,200
amongst others as well well north rap

800
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:47,039
was one back in 47.

801
00:29:49,990 --> 00:29:48,320
i think i should have a picture of

802
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:50,000
something that looked like a pure

803
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:51,039
boomerang

804
00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:53,039
i looked into it and it crashed in

805
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,080
mid-air but

806
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,240
yeah hey listen that conversation comes

807
00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:58,240
up quite regularly like the horton hoe

808
00:30:02,630 --> 00:29:58,720
and

809
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,640
development post second world war

810
00:30:05,909 --> 00:30:05,200
people died in the u2 and the a12

811
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:05,919
testing

812
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:08,720
yeah i think i think this last one is

813
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,240
actually most interesting

814
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,880
read it for us max the nature of these

815
00:30:16,230 --> 00:30:13,840
technologies

816
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:16,240
and the fact that the united states has

817
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:18,320
no countermeasure measures

818
00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:21,440
is considered highly sensitive

819
00:30:28,389 --> 00:30:25,279
so i think yeah i think this is actually

820
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:28,399
illustrative of the problem

821
00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:31,039
we are facing right now and i think this

822
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:32,960
is actually why

823
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:37,520
um mr elizondo and mr reed and mr

824
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:40,000
melon are disclosing this because they

825
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:40,559
feel

826
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:44,320
powerless yeah um you know for decades

827
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,039
now so there is technology in our skies

828
00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,320
we cannot counter measure and

829
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,320
we are finding we are trying to find

830
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:56,399
ways to counter measure them

831
00:31:03,110 --> 00:30:59,919
and for example the dod is not

832
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:03,120
has not been able to do that

833
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:07,760
adversary powers have not been able to

834
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:08,559
do that

835
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:11,519
but now we have uh scientists like avi

836
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:12,399
lope

837
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,720
uh trying to figure out what the hell

838
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:15,600
these things are

839
00:31:22,389 --> 00:31:19,120
and maybe not counter measure

840
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:22,399
because they have proven to be not

841
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:26,399
aggressive or uh you know uh

842
00:31:29,669 --> 00:31:29,279
you know invasive or something but you

843
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,679
know

844
00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:32,159
just find out what what the hell it is

845
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:33,600
you guys ever still like

846
00:31:37,590 --> 00:31:36,159
think like give me a break it's been 80

847
00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:37,600
years of the same stuff

848
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,480
you know something this is hogwash do

849
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:42,320
you ever think that

850
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:46,320
yeah absolutely

851
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:49,840
i mean the thing is if you really dwell

852
00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,960
on that point

853
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:52,880
it can really bring you down a little

854
00:31:56,230 --> 00:31:54,880
bit and i i i think i then think well

855
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:56,240
listen at least i'm in a position now

856
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:57,600
where i feel like i'm adding something

857
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:59,519
to the conversation to try and change

858
00:32:01,590 --> 00:32:00,240
that

859
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:01,600
because if i was just sat around doing

860
00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,600
nothing i'd feel awful

861
00:32:07,990 --> 00:32:06,480
yeah do you guys don't you find that all

862
00:32:11,669 --> 00:32:08,000
of these points

863
00:32:16,149 --> 00:32:11,679
are directed to something that could be

864
00:32:18,149 --> 00:32:16,159
potentially aggressive or invasive or

865
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,159
threatening it is but that's the job of

866
00:32:21,909 --> 00:32:20,000
the dod is the department of defense

867
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:21,919
their job is to defend so if they don't

868
00:32:24,389 --> 00:32:23,039
know something then

869
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:24,399
you know that's just the way it falls

870
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,799
into that kind of possibility

871
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:28,399
yeah but maybe maybe that's not the

872
00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:30,799
right way to approach this

873
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:34,240
you know it's it's very human

874
00:32:37,430 --> 00:32:36,960
to think that anything we don't know is

875
00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:37,440
uh

876
00:32:43,269 --> 00:32:41,440
you know about to kill us

877
00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:43,279
i would gather that they may have

878
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:45,360
different aspects of this like the

879
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:47,919
first page of these slides when they

880
00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:48,720
were trying to get

881
00:32:55,509 --> 00:32:52,000
more aspects of a tip kind of beefed up

882
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:55,519
maybe this one you know this is just

883
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:59,279
a part of one aspect that they're doing

884
00:33:02,950 --> 00:33:00,720
because right when there's when there's

885
00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:02,960
something unknown isn't it smart to look

886
00:33:05,509 --> 00:33:04,720
at the worst case scenario and plan for

887
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:05,519
that but not

888
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,360
exactly yeah exactly plan for the worst

889
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:10,720
hope for the best

890
00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:14,399
right but maybe not uh immediately plan

891
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,679
for the worst

892
00:33:18,789 --> 00:33:17,360
um because you have to look at the

893
00:33:20,710 --> 00:33:18,799
behavior because you know

894
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,720
this has not been going on for five

895
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:22,640
years this has been going on for 80

896
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:23,120
years

897
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:26,000
yeah we had some time to observe

898
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:26,880
whatever

899
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:30,320
was going on although uh being very

900
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:34,480
classified but what if we change

901
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,000
our demeanor and

902
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:41,279
uh see if we can instead of

903
00:33:47,350 --> 00:33:46,310
aggressiveness which is clearly not the

904
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:47,360
case

905
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,840
um maybe see if there's a way to

906
00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:52,799
communicate uh

907
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:56,399
with whatever is uh uh uh you know

908
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:00,480
uh penetrating our skies yeah so i think

909
00:34:03,269 --> 00:34:01,760
yeah i think that's what the public are

910
00:34:04,710 --> 00:34:03,279
doing though with all these initiatives

911
00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:04,720
for contact and

912
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,360
ce5 and all that the government may be

913
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,520
looking into it we've seen hal put off

914
00:34:13,669 --> 00:34:12,079
jack valet talking about this thing or

915
00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:13,679
not really talking about it but

916
00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:15,119
bringing it up here and there but i

917
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:16,399
think there are studies going on in the

918
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:18,000
background alluding to that kind of

919
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:18,879
thing

920
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,079
you know did you happen to see the

921
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:24,320
uh probably not maybe not because i had

922
00:34:28,550 --> 00:34:25,839
posted a lot yesterday

923
00:34:29,430 --> 00:34:28,560
but there was a one um paper uh nasa

924
00:34:32,950 --> 00:34:29,440
paper

925
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:32,960
it's a good amount of pages probably

926
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,040
40 plus and it's all on contact

927
00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:38,720
i did see it i didn't read through it

928
00:34:42,149 --> 00:34:40,320
how to deal with it now

929
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,159
i've never seen it before never seen

930
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:43,599
that paper either

931
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:48,000
teleshot they call it seti c-e-t-i

932
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:51,359
yeah um yeah but it's pretty it's

933
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:53,839
pretty it's pretty interesting for sure

934
00:34:58,950 --> 00:34:56,480
um it is it's not the same as seti

935
00:35:01,030 --> 00:34:58,960
is it because that's the scti correct

936
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,040
they're mentioned in there but it's seti

937
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:04,320
c c-e-t-i yeah um and

938
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,920
it doesn't talk because i thought it was

939
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:07,440
the same yeah

940
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:10,000
it doesn't talk as if it happened but it

941
00:35:15,510 --> 00:35:11,760
talks as if it's

942
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:15,520
impending right you know

943
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:18,720
um and how to do it and is it dangerous

944
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:22,000
and talked about um the plan

945
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:25,119
to send messages into space

946
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:27,680
and what kind of message that should be

947
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:28,160
and

948
00:35:31,190 --> 00:35:29,520
how are they going to send them it how

949
00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:31,200
are they going to send the messages

950
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:33,280
that i don't know it wasn't like

951
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:35,200
consciously do you mean or do you mean

952
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:37,520
no radios or yeah i think it was like

953
00:35:41,829 --> 00:35:38,720
radio or

954
00:35:45,030 --> 00:35:41,839
something do you remember the the time

955
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:45,040
capsules of nasa you know with

956
00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:47,520
the the the the pictures of the the

957
00:35:52,470 --> 00:35:48,640
female and the male

958
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:52,480
human being and uh some of our

959
00:35:56,790 --> 00:35:55,520
artworks and our place in the universe

960
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,800
and stuff

961
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,000
from the 70s i remember bro yeah

962
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,200
yeah they're like um didn't we send like

963
00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:05,280
a corvette out there playing a song or

964
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:06,640
something

965
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:09,920
uh just a movie

966
00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:13,040
but i i i do think elon sent a uh this

967
00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,920
is a tesla

968
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,160
yeah yeah yeah okay that's what it was

969
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,599
with the rocket man in it yeah

970
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:19,040
so listen let's move on to the next

971
00:36:21,829 --> 00:36:20,240
slide because i think they start getting

972
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:21,839
a bit better now leading up to

973
00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:24,720
and what i must um state here is that in

974
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:25,280
this

975
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:26,560
in these files that were found on

976
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,000
christopher mellon's website when these

977
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:30,640
were found a few years back by

978
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,200
the mine sublime slides five and six

979
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:35,280
were missing so

980
00:36:37,750 --> 00:36:36,640
yeah i just want to bear that in mind

981
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:37,760
i'm not sure where we're at i think

982
00:36:40,150 --> 00:36:39,119
we're on yeah we're on seven so we've

983
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,160
actually skipped

984
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:42,000
five and six because they weren't there

985
00:36:45,990 --> 00:36:43,760
when they were found

986
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:46,000
so yeah so let's look at this a-tip

987
00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:48,800
technical studies in the following areas

988
00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:52,720
lift propulsion control power generation

989
00:36:56,790 --> 00:36:56,000
spatial temporal translation signature

990
00:36:58,790 --> 00:36:56,800
reduction

991
00:36:59,990 --> 00:36:58,800
optical infrared radio frequency

992
00:37:02,230 --> 00:37:00,000
acoustic

993
00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:02,240
technology integration materials

994
00:37:06,950 --> 00:37:03,280
configuration

995
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:06,960
structure human interface human effects

996
00:37:12,390 --> 00:37:10,320
armament rf and dew

997
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:12,400
emphasis on unconventional technology

998
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:13,359
capabilities

999
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:16,400
40 years in the future and beyond not

1000
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:19,040
extrapolations of current technology

1001
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:21,040
investigate legitimacy of currently

1002
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,560
observed phenomena

1003
00:37:26,470 --> 00:37:24,400
are they achievable by current physics

1004
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,480
in engineering if not

1005
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:29,280
what research is required to achieve now

1006
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,960
listen guys pull anything out of there

1007
00:37:33,589 --> 00:37:32,320
that you want and we'll talk about it

1008
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:33,599
because there's a lot of different

1009
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:36,320
obviously points in there or areas

1010
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,359
well anything stand out lift uh

1011
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,359
we know that propulsion we're probably

1012
00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,440
talking about anti-gravity they

1013
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,240
help put off described at 2004 paper how

1014
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:48,560
he's figured out zero point energy

1015
00:37:56,150 --> 00:37:52,560
which is not the same no it's not um

1016
00:37:59,910 --> 00:37:56,160
but still pretty difficult spatial

1017
00:38:03,190 --> 00:37:59,920
uh temporal translation i think that is

1018
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,200
how to translate space in time

1019
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:06,000
into something that we can that we can

1020
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:06,720
fathom

1021
00:38:10,470 --> 00:38:09,520
yeah and work with possibly signature

1022
00:38:13,109 --> 00:38:10,480
reduction

1023
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:13,119
seems like a camouflage or you know

1024
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:13,680
stealth

1025
00:38:18,550 --> 00:38:17,520
yeah across different sensor methods by

1026
00:38:19,910 --> 00:38:18,560
the look of it as well

1027
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,920
it is probably getting a lot more

1028
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:21,839
difficult to do that as countries

1029
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:24,240
uh you know develop their technology

1030
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:24,960
they're also

1031
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:27,760
developing ways to beat each other's

1032
00:38:31,349 --> 00:38:28,320
stealth

1033
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:31,359
technology exactly all the aegis arrays

1034
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:32,320
and um

1035
00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:34,480
radar systems that we've seen right you

1036
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:35,680
know going back to the

1037
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:38,800
the human interface yeah well this is

1038
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,640
actually very contradiction you know

1039
00:38:44,550 --> 00:38:43,280
uh some of them uh turn up on radar and

1040
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,560
some of them don't

1041
00:38:47,829 --> 00:38:46,800
yeah so that's weird yeah that is look

1042
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:47,839
at we just got this message from the

1043
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:49,359
signal we've got our own personal little

1044
00:38:53,670 --> 00:38:50,880
database here thank you dan

1045
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:53,680
uh rf is radio frequency dw distant

1046
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:54,560
early warning

1047
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,800
yep awesome that that kind of stuff has

1048
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:58,160
been implemented in the past but

1049
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,280
probably at different levels and

1050
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:00,480
capabilities

1051
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,760
you know distant early warning systems

1052
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,320
you know have been basic in the past and

1053
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:07,680
i guess they just always develop

1054
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:09,599
alongside other technologies like

1055
00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:12,800
radar and yeah now i have to

1056
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:15,280
ask this before i feel dumb what does

1057
00:39:20,630 --> 00:39:17,040
armament mean

1058
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:20,640
and like um like

1059
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,560
have like arm yourself with like have

1060
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:24,880
that oh

1061
00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:30,710
that's okay bro no worries i mean i

1062
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,800
might be slightly off there but

1063
00:39:36,069 --> 00:39:34,800
yeah it's like to have the capability to

1064
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,079
arm yourself with these

1065
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:39,440
functions let's say of radio frequencies

1066
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,599
to detect maybe or to send

1067
00:39:46,150 --> 00:39:44,560
and then right early warning systems

1068
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,160
could be

1069
00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:48,000
you know this means military weapons and

1070
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,400
equipment there you go

1071
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:52,880
the process of equipping military forces

1072
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,240
for war

1073
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:56,480
sorry about that guys you know uh oh

1074
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,760
good bro this is why we're here we're

1075
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,200
just spitballing we don't know

1076
00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:01,280
we don't know we just i'm not an english

1077
00:40:03,990 --> 00:40:02,960
native so sometimes i don't know what a

1078
00:40:07,349 --> 00:40:04,000
word means

1079
00:40:09,109 --> 00:40:07,359
that's all good so

1080
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:09,119
i think the bottom part as well is quite

1081
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:10,880
interesting investigate the legitimacy

1082
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:12,640
of currently observed phenomena i mean

1083
00:40:18,069 --> 00:40:15,040
that's straightforward like

1084
00:40:20,950 --> 00:40:18,079
to me personally yeah

1085
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,960
that's kind of confusing isn't it well i

1086
00:40:24,390 --> 00:40:22,800
do think i do think the most important

1087
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:24,400
facet of whatever

1088
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:28,240
this this little uh lineup is

1089
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,359
is again propulsion you know

1090
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,920
if if we figure out propulsion i think

1091
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,880
we figure out

1092
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,440
it all but no no i disagree because it

1093
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:39,200
depends which propulsion method you

1094
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:40,000
figure out

1095
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:43,119
is it anti-gravity electromagnetic or

1096
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,160
multiple other ones but we don't know

1097
00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,960
so we have to figure out what propulsion

1098
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:50,400
is being used

1099
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:52,880
and i'm not saying it's all the same

1100
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:53,680
right

1101
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:56,800
but i feel um

1102
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:59,760
that if if if we really look into that

1103
00:41:04,309 --> 00:41:01,839
it it might be

1104
00:41:06,550 --> 00:41:04,319
correlating to to whatever we uh we

1105
00:41:07,750 --> 00:41:06,560
observe but then yeah just me

1106
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,760
but no no but the thing is with that

1107
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:09,200
conversation you can go deeper because

1108
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,000
you can talk about

1109
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,800
physical like craft made out of some

1110
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,880
metal or metamaterial that uses an

1111
00:41:18,470 --> 00:41:16,400
antigravitic or an electro

1112
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:18,480
electromagnetic propulsion system

1113
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:20,319
then you can go even further and talk to

1114
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:22,160
something that may be

1115
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:25,760
non-physical or something dimensional

1116
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,599
that isn't like a solid form that

1117
00:41:31,190 --> 00:41:30,319
you know you know that rabbit hole gets

1118
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:31,200
deeper

1119
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,240
if you want it to and i find that

1120
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,760
scary because there aren't there aren't

1121
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:37,760
any answers i think the people that are

1122
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,480
looking at

1123
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,000
those kind of levels at the moment

1124
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,240
people like dr eric davis and that

1125
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,560
who haven't talked publicly for quite

1126
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:46,000
some time now

1127
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,520
you know that's where there's some

1128
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,280
serious research and information that i

1129
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:50,720
just love to hear

1130
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,160
yeah yeah and put off

1131
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:57,599
yeah and of course signature because

1132
00:42:03,589 --> 00:42:00,880
signature gives a gives away a lot of uh

1133
00:42:04,630 --> 00:42:03,599
information on on how these things

1134
00:42:07,109 --> 00:42:04,640
actually enter

1135
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,119
our skies for example if they come

1136
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:10,160
through our atmosphere there's heat uh

1137
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:12,800
ablation you i think you call it you

1138
00:42:19,030 --> 00:42:14,880
know so there's heat signature

1139
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,040
and when they're through uh atmosphere

1140
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:21,760
they come into our skies and now we have

1141
00:42:27,750 --> 00:42:24,240
other systems to

1142
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:27,760
detect whatever it is and look if i

1143
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,280
just paraphrase uh what i've heard from

1144
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:34,240
some of our friends is that these things

1145
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,960
come through

1146
00:42:38,309 --> 00:42:37,040
our atmosphere we can see the the

1147
00:42:42,230 --> 00:42:38,319
signature of heat

1148
00:42:45,829 --> 00:42:42,240
ablation they drop down in a fraction

1149
00:42:48,950 --> 00:42:45,839
of a second and just stop on a dime yeah

1150
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:48,960
above our sea level

1151
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:51,599
then just disappear like that and turn

1152
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:52,240
up

1153
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:59,190
away you know so i think uh yeah

1154
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:00,000
definitely

1155
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:05,440
um signature is

1156
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:08,880
very important yeah so

1157
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,480
and then we've got are they achievable

1158
00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:12,240
by current physics and engineering well

1159
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:14,960
i think that's pretty clear that

1160
00:43:18,230 --> 00:43:17,599
no but then are they achievable by the

1161
00:43:21,349 --> 00:43:18,240
physics

1162
00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:21,359
and engineering that we don't see you

1163
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:21,920
know

1164
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:26,160
yeah yeah again it it

1165
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,440
just seems like they don't know what

1166
00:43:31,589 --> 00:43:30,000
they're dealing with you know

1167
00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,599
because they're asking these questions

1168
00:43:35,990 --> 00:43:33,280
yeah like can we

1169
00:43:37,990 --> 00:43:36,000
achieve these kinds of technologies

1170
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,000
things we don't understand or

1171
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,280
haven't even decided to give legitimacy

1172
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:44,079
can we achieve it i'd love to know which

1173
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:46,480
what year these slides were

1174
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:49,599
put out to or through atip you know to

1175
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:52,640
internally this whole thing

1176
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:55,520
is put together and then they say well

1177
00:43:59,990 --> 00:43:56,319
we have to

1178
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:00,000
investigate the legitimacy

1179
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:03,040
yeah it's so hard though it's weird it

1180
00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:03,920
is

1181
00:44:09,990 --> 00:44:06,240
that's the thing it's difficult to you

1182
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,510
dude i was running i didn't have a lot

1183
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,200
of time i just no no

1184
00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:16,800
i mean uh like like well they haven't

1185
00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:19,520
legitimized that what is this for they

1186
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,280
were maybe this was early days at where

1187
00:44:24,550 --> 00:44:22,800
they were running on bare bones low

1188
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:24,560
budget you know they got the 22 million

1189
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:25,520
they think you know we've got to make

1190
00:44:28,550 --> 00:44:26,960
this last let's not

1191
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,560
waste it all on the first bunch of

1192
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:30,160
slides and stuff let's just go for the

1193
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:31,359
basics

1194
00:44:36,309 --> 00:44:34,319
yeah but i do think i do think you know

1195
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:36,319
that they have a a really

1196
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:39,599
uh great list of whatever we need to

1197
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:40,560
[\h__\h] find out

1198
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,319
you know but the thing is you've always

1199
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,680
got a bear in mind you've got to bear in

1200
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:45,839
mind the 38 um scientific papers that

1201
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,640
they did as well

1202
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:48,160
one still being classified i can't

1203
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,680
remember which one

1204
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:51,440
i've looked into them and got it go

1205
00:44:54,710 --> 00:44:52,480
straight over my head because you're

1206
00:44:57,190 --> 00:44:54,720
going into really high-end physics

1207
00:44:58,309 --> 00:44:57,200
quantum physics mixed with astrophysics

1208
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:58,319
speaks with

1209
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,880
theoretical physics you know um i bet

1210
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,480
that all relates to exactly what we're

1211
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:04,480
looking at right now but of course

1212
00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:06,000
i can't join the dots i'm not a

1213
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,000
physicist

1214
00:45:12,150 --> 00:45:10,079
so you know there's that to bear in mind

1215
00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:12,160
but so let's move on to the next one now

1216
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:12,960
this is just

1217
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,720
an interesting image a patient one month

1218
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:18,880
following near field exposure to

1219
00:45:24,309 --> 00:45:21,920
unidentified aerial craft at 500 meters

1220
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,319
wait a minute patient died two weeks

1221
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,560
later so i don't know what we're seeing

1222
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,960
yeah what are you doing this was in the

1223
00:45:32,069 --> 00:45:29,920
slides bro

1224
00:45:33,030 --> 00:45:32,079
this was on the mind sublime who found

1225
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:33,040
this is the guy that

1226
00:45:37,030 --> 00:45:34,960
found this he's only seen this this was

1227
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,040
found on christopher mellon's

1228
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,240
website wow

1229
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,440
i mean i don't know what we're looking

1230
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:43,520
at you know look

1231
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:46,880
let me read this patient one month

1232
00:45:51,829 --> 00:45:49,119
following near field exposure to

1233
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:51,839
unidentified aerial craft at 500

1234
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:55,760
meters so we're looking at radiation or

1235
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:57,920
yeah in fact of something along those

1236
00:46:01,510 --> 00:45:59,680
lines well

1237
00:46:03,109 --> 00:46:01,520
there's no information about that for

1238
00:46:05,430 --> 00:46:03,119
for now uh patient

1239
00:46:07,829 --> 00:46:05,440
two died two weeks later now this is

1240
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,839
this is interesting

1241
00:46:22,630 --> 00:46:11,040
well look signal the the cow

1242
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:24,470
so then that kind of puts all the other

1243
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:28,000
uh slides into some context there here

1244
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:31,280
male prostitutes a little bit anyways

1245
00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:32,880
thank you so this is what we're trying

1246
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:35,520
to figure this out

1247
00:46:39,510 --> 00:46:38,480
oh here we go he's even broke it down

1248
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:39,520
chordate

1249
00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:42,880
man dan we need you here man let me send

1250
00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,160
you a streaming

1251
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:47,359
uh sorry a poo a man a

1252
00:46:50,790 --> 00:46:49,119
dude who shits himself what the hell is

1253
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:50,800
that

1254
00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:53,040
oh it's always you bringing in the dirty

1255
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:54,640
talk

1256
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:55,760
i'm just going to throw this out there

1257
00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:58,400
dan if you are available text me now

1258
00:47:01,589 --> 00:46:59,839
and i'll send you the stream yard link

1259
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,599
because then

1260
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:03,200
please comment you need to get out of

1261
00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:04,319
these comments and into this

1262
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:05,520
conversation

1263
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:08,720
yeah yeah i feel like

1264
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,160
i interpret everything wrong

1265
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,400
but listen learn more about that this is

1266
00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,000
interesting because

1267
00:47:20,230 --> 00:47:18,960
someone innocently died just from being

1268
00:47:22,870 --> 00:47:20,240
near a craft

1269
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:22,880
now that doesn't mean that whoever was

1270
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,079
in the craft

1271
00:47:27,750 --> 00:47:26,160
was trying to hurt this person but

1272
00:47:31,750 --> 00:47:27,760
whatever field or

1273
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:31,760
magnetic or electrical or radiation

1274
00:47:36,309 --> 00:47:34,480
this person experienced from 500 meters

1275
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:36,319
affected their brain

1276
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,520
and killed them so wow does that make

1277
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:42,160
whatever it is a threat do you see where

1278
00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,880
i'm coming from

1279
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:44,720
right that kind of reminds me of one

1280
00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:46,240
loose says

1281
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:49,680
that it could just be a byproduct

1282
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,359
of something the phenomenon has like

1283
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:56,400
maybe it's zipping by one of our planes

1284
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:57,119
or whatever

1285
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,760
and their radar gets jammed but that

1286
00:48:02,069 --> 00:48:01,359
could be just the construction of

1287
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,079
whatever this

1288
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,800
is and it's a byproduct of it that that

1289
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:07,440
happens and messes with electronics

1290
00:48:11,510 --> 00:48:09,920
good point yeah a very good point so we

1291
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:11,520
don't know again this is the thing it's

1292
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,720
how do you read it it could be torture

1293
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:16,400
man if they're like i'm gonna give you

1294
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:18,640
like brain stuff and you got two weeks

1295
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:19,760
to live that's

1296
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:22,400
terrible if they were doing that on

1297
00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:23,599
purpose

1298
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:25,760
yeah did you did you guys um hold on a

1299
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:27,119
minute why how did my brother just

1300
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:27,920
become

1301
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:31,359
part that controls critical functions

1302
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:32,640
most control cognition

1303
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:35,680
and emotion hey

1304
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:38,960
wow okay bro thanks dude

1305
00:48:44,710 --> 00:48:42,240
look at look at the brain on bro

1306
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:44,720
maybe he's found the the article because

1307
00:48:47,589 --> 00:48:45,920
what i haven't shown is that this

1308
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:47,599
article actually has a lot of footnotes

1309
00:48:52,470 --> 00:48:48,720
and that but if we

1310
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:52,480
you know we'd be here for three hours um

1311
00:48:55,829 --> 00:48:54,160
we could do another show on that here we

1312
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,839
go gary nolan did a study of people

1313
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,880
exposed to craft

1314
00:49:00,390 --> 00:48:58,720
he found a possible connection with

1315
00:49:01,829 --> 00:49:00,400
increased connections

1316
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,839
to that he's going to make me say that

1317
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,599
again i'm going to scroll back i don't

1318
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:05,520
even know what it is i got to look it up

1319
00:49:10,470 --> 00:49:08,800
yeah dan has given us some work to do

1320
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:10,480
thank you called eight poor man thank

1321
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:12,240
you dan i actually really appreciate

1322
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:12,960
that because

1323
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,920
he likes showing off but the dude knows

1324
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:17,280
that's what i love about dan

1325
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:21,119
love love the guy um oh look disclosure

1326
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,920
bro

1327
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:28,710
so let's move on to this one

1328
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:31,200
technical reports now these are these

1329
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,319
are some of the papers that i would

1330
00:49:37,030 --> 00:49:34,160
mention before the 38 papers

1331
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:37,040
i think it was 38 though written i mean

1332
00:49:39,589 --> 00:49:38,160
if you look at the names

1333
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:39,599
i don't know if you can see my cursor

1334
00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:41,680
but dr eric davis comes up

1335
00:49:44,870 --> 00:49:44,160
three or four times i think hal put

1336
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:44,880
off's in there

1337
00:49:50,549 --> 00:49:48,240
somewhere yeah near the top

1338
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:50,559
so help you know we've got earth tech we

1339
00:49:56,829 --> 00:49:52,079
got northrup so north

1340
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:58,069
university

1341
00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,119
hypertech is uh you know arizona state

1342
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,680
square access wherebean where go

1343
00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:07,599
advanced nuclear propulsion see this is

1344
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,280
like all high-end physics papers you

1345
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:11,200
know and these are available for anybody

1346
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,680
that's

1347
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:14,400
watching now or watches later you can go

1348
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:15,119
and look at

1349
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,800
every single one of the eight tip papers

1350
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,319
except for the one that still remains

1351
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:20,319
classified they are

1352
00:50:23,990 --> 00:50:23,520
hard to read but i recommend looking at

1353
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:24,000
them

1354
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:26,240
interesting definitely recommend looking

1355
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:28,160
at them i will do that

1356
00:50:34,630 --> 00:50:31,280
um so it leads us on to

1357
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:34,640
the one we all know and love and like

1358
00:50:39,430 --> 00:50:37,760
slide nine you know this one really

1359
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:39,440
blows my mind the more i look at it

1360
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:40,240
because

1361
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,359
as we as it says the science exists

1362
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,119
for an enemy of the united states to

1363
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:47,200
manipulate both physical and cognitive

1364
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:48,160
environments

1365
00:50:52,870 --> 00:50:50,720
in order to penetrate us facilities

1366
00:50:54,630 --> 00:50:52,880
influence decision makers and compromise

1367
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:54,640
national security

1368
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,839
psychotronic weapons cognitive human

1369
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,040
interface

1370
00:51:04,710 --> 00:51:01,920
penetration of solid surfaces

1371
00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:04,720
instantaneous sensor disassembly

1372
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:07,040
alteration manipulation of biological

1373
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:08,160
organisms

1374
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,880
anomalies in the space-time construct

1375
00:51:14,950 --> 00:51:11,520
unique

1376
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:14,960
cognitive human interface experiences

1377
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:17,200
and we'll we'll move on to the last bit

1378
00:51:20,390 --> 00:51:18,720
after we've kind of discussed these

1379
00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:20,400
points anything stand out for you guys

1380
00:51:25,510 --> 00:51:22,400
that you want to discuss

1381
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:25,520
casual conversations read a whole paper

1382
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:26,319
on

1383
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:29,920
me

1384
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:37,910
celebrity at the uni unidentified

1385
00:51:42,870 --> 00:51:39,680
celebrity review last night

1386
00:51:44,630 --> 00:51:42,880
with us uh green street i didn't i

1387
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,640
watched the start where he

1388
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:46,160
was going for all the merch and then i

1389
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:47,680
just got really tired

1390
00:51:51,990 --> 00:51:49,680
now i i do think this really touches

1391
00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:52,000
down on whatever was discussed uh last

1392
00:51:57,030 --> 00:51:54,240
night and i thought it was an amazing

1393
00:51:57,950 --> 00:51:57,040
discussion actually and and now we are

1394
00:52:02,470 --> 00:51:57,960
talking about

1395
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:05,109
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and all over

1396
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:06,800
twitter today

1397
00:52:12,950 --> 00:52:10,160
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

1398
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:12,960
it is not but it's it's a conversation

1399
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:14,720
that is needed actually

1400
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:18,079
uh because we need to you know we we

1401
00:52:22,710 --> 00:52:19,359
need to check

1402
00:52:24,069 --> 00:52:22,720
check mark that you know we really need

1403
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:24,079
to know

1404
00:52:30,150 --> 00:52:27,440
if there is misinformation

1405
00:52:31,349 --> 00:52:30,160
used uh and and i think this touches

1406
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:31,359
down on that

1407
00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:34,559
um are we being duped what are you guys

1408
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:38,400
who by who though yeah

1409
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,359
by lou by chris mellon yeah okay so this

1410
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:43,280
this is the elephant in the room

1411
00:52:48,150 --> 00:52:46,559
uh are we i don't think so no um

1412
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:48,160
you're right though that is the elephant

1413
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:50,000
in the room that is the elephant in the

1414
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:50,480
room

1415
00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:52,400
okay let's touch upon it then i think

1416
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:53,920
that's only fair

1417
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,000
yeah it's painful

1418
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:01,280
yeah it is but let's let's really

1419
00:53:04,549 --> 00:53:03,599
let's really uh take a deep dive right

1420
00:53:10,790 --> 00:53:04,559
now

1421
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:10,800
uh

1422
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:20,790
spread this information why would lou

1423
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:23,440
have all these battles within the dod

1424
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:24,240
and

1425
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,599
only to be some sort of well

1426
00:53:35,109 --> 00:53:33,920
you could say they're doing that so that

1427
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,119
you would be here

1428
00:53:39,589 --> 00:53:37,760
saying that when the question came up

1429
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:39,599
exactly

1430
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:42,720
yeah but maybe but maybe i'm i'm a

1431
00:53:46,950 --> 00:53:44,000
grateful idiot

1432
00:53:48,549 --> 00:53:46,960
you know and and and i'm saying it you

1433
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,559
know

1434
00:53:54,870 --> 00:53:51,599
an advocate of the devil right uh

1435
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:54,880
i'm one of those guys who is

1436
00:54:02,390 --> 00:53:59,280
uh you know has a lot of energy as a

1437
00:54:05,430 --> 00:54:02,400
loud noise and uh lets

1438
00:54:08,950 --> 00:54:05,440
himself you being used for

1439
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:08,960
some misinformation uh thing uh

1440
00:54:15,109 --> 00:54:12,400
maybe all of us um

1441
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:15,119
do you think this could be a real

1442
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:16,559
scenario

1443
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:19,440
what this slide or the subject at all

1444
00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:20,880
well you're taking into the

1445
00:54:24,230 --> 00:54:23,359
the slide you know that like we we take

1446
00:54:27,510 --> 00:54:24,240
on all this

1447
00:54:28,630 --> 00:54:27,520
information uh we are uh spreading this

1448
00:54:32,630 --> 00:54:28,640
information

1449
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:32,640
uh is there a way uh like green street

1450
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:35,839
uh stressed last night um

1451
00:54:39,270 --> 00:54:38,720
it could be that we are being used

1452
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:39,280
actually

1453
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,920
i don't think we are and as far as

1454
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:43,760
looking at this specific slide i think

1455
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:44,240
you need

1456
00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:48,079
that was had between

1457
00:54:51,670 --> 00:54:50,160
james e and doley and lou elizondo

1458
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,680
regarding slide nine and that

1459
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:52,960
conversation

1460
00:54:58,950 --> 00:54:57,119
street i haven't seen it but i've seen

1461
00:55:02,069 --> 00:54:58,960
the the backlash on twitter

1462
00:55:04,549 --> 00:55:02,079
doesn't sound like it was correctly

1463
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:04,559
discussed at the time and it probably

1464
00:55:10,069 --> 00:55:08,240
um warrants further clarification and

1465
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:10,079
precision on what what he was trying to

1466
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:11,440
say no

1467
00:55:15,109 --> 00:55:14,319
like in defense of of stephen you know

1468
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,119
um

1469
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:17,200
he wasn't saying like i i think this is

1470
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,400
the scenario

1471
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,640
i understand yeah yeah i know but i

1472
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,480
think if we're talking about it between

1473
00:55:26,710 --> 00:55:25,040
the three of us we've all spoken to lou

1474
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:26,720
we've spoken to lou behind the scenes

1475
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:28,720
max you've spoken to lou probably more

1476
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:29,680
than most of us

1477
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:32,559
so let's just get to the to the chases

1478
00:55:34,870 --> 00:55:33,440
that we

1479
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,880
don't believe it's this information

1480
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:36,079
because of some of the things we've

1481
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,920
spoken to lou about

1482
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:40,000
and obviously we can't discuss some of

1483
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,760
them sorry everyone

1484
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:43,680
but it's really i'm saying that to

1485
00:55:47,910 --> 00:55:46,000
emphasize the point of what i believe

1486
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:47,920
is that lou is not a misinformation or a

1487
00:55:52,470 --> 00:55:50,000
disinformation agent because no no no no

1488
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:52,480
i've i've stressed this uh

1489
00:55:59,190 --> 00:55:56,079
look i'm i'm gonna say it right out

1490
00:55:59,750 --> 00:55:59,200
right now i trust lou with my life yeah

1491
00:56:03,109 --> 00:55:59,760
i do

1492
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:03,119
you know uh this guy is solid

1493
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,440
you know he's not a uh shaman a false

1494
00:56:11,670 --> 00:56:08,880
prophet no

1495
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:11,680
this is a straight-up man and uh you

1496
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:13,280
know i trust him

1497
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,599
yeah there we go dan it's manufactured

1498
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:17,599
drama they were riffing don't worry

1499
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:18,240
about it

1500
00:56:22,470 --> 00:56:19,760
that's exactly kind of what i'm saying

1501
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:22,480
is like i think

1502
00:56:28,150 --> 00:56:25,680
it was a conversation that i mean

1503
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:28,160
green street is an investigative

1504
00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,319
journalist he's got some very

1505
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,359
he's been putting out some

1506
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:35,040
some bleepers recently as far as he's

1507
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:36,400
working on a passion

1508
00:56:42,150 --> 00:56:39,440
and he's working off of yeah no but i

1509
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:44,549
look what he's doing is actually very

1510
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:45,839
important

1511
00:56:53,750 --> 00:56:50,240
you know um he is being critical

1512
00:56:56,870 --> 00:56:53,760
as a journalist which is what we all

1513
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:56,880
need never settle right

1514
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:59,920
and and stephen is doing that and uh

1515
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:01,200
then again

1516
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:05,119
anything you know

1517
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:08,640
well he's really testing the

1518
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:12,480
the whole people should be able to have

1519
00:57:17,910 --> 00:57:16,079
their ideas without fear of

1520
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,920
you know being attacked for them you

1521
00:57:20,950 --> 00:57:20,240
know just really putting that to the

1522
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,960
test

1523
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:22,880
and seeing how that shakes out because

1524
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:24,559
that's how it should be i tend to agree

1525
00:57:29,109 --> 00:57:27,520
with you max that you know

1526
00:57:31,349 --> 00:57:29,119
everybody doesn't have to look into the

1527
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:31,359
same stuff he does but the fact that he

1528
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:32,640
is looking into it

1529
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:35,359
and he takes it all the way he's either

1530
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:36,480
going to come up empty

1531
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,880
empty or find something you know that's

1532
00:57:41,589 --> 00:57:40,240
true

1533
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,599
i think i think what i was kind of

1534
00:57:43,750 --> 00:57:42,880
getting towards is that we're looking at

1535
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:43,760
these slides i think

1536
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,319
our views are important right now on lou

1537
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:48,319
because of what we think and if we

1538
00:57:52,230 --> 00:57:50,400
yeah even consider the fact that there's

1539
00:57:53,670 --> 00:57:52,240
misinformation or disinformation people

1540
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:53,680
that watch this might think that that's

1541
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,880
what we think because

1542
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,559
they might read it wrong no offense to

1543
00:58:00,950 --> 00:57:57,920
everyone watching but

1544
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:00,960
there's a fine line between speculation

1545
00:58:04,950 --> 00:58:03,440
and conversation and things like that so

1546
00:58:06,470 --> 00:58:04,960
i like to put my viewpoints out there

1547
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,480
quite solidly

1548
00:58:09,589 --> 00:58:09,040
yeah straight up you know but i also

1549
00:58:11,109 --> 00:58:09,599
think

1550
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:11,119
stephen is touching down on something

1551
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:12,880
very important you know he said

1552
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:16,640
like everything i see i investigate

1553
00:58:21,270 --> 00:58:19,760
and i need nuts and bolts yeah and

1554
00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:21,280
the thing is they were they were

1555
00:58:24,470 --> 00:58:22,880
reviewing mirage men so they'd been

1556
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,480
looking into rick doherty so it

1557
00:58:27,510 --> 00:58:26,079
naturally the conversation would flow

1558
00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:27,520
from that aspect

1559
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:30,720
you know osi you know air force osi

1560
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,319
the office of special investigations and

1561
00:58:34,789 --> 00:58:34,000
all the dodgy stuff they were doing for

1562
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:34,799
so long

1563
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:37,440
yeah look see how the conversation went

1564
00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,839
yeah but

1565
00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:39,920
but i think his message is quite

1566
00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:40,960
important because

1567
00:58:47,910 --> 00:58:44,160
we don't have to no we

1568
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:47,920
we must not settle for anything you know

1569
00:58:51,030 --> 00:58:49,119
we need to keep on

1570
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,040
investigating that makes me think of

1571
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:52,559
something um

1572
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:55,839
yeah and what it is is

1573
00:59:00,069 --> 00:58:58,400
there's one way to make sure that this

1574
00:59:02,710 --> 00:59:00,079
whole situation

1575
00:59:04,150 --> 00:59:02,720
um goes well and that you know we

1576
00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:04,160
wouldn't be in that situation where

1577
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:05,280
we're being duped

1578
00:59:11,589 --> 00:59:08,480
and what it is is uh it's time

1579
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:11,599
that these people um are transparent and

1580
00:59:15,030 --> 00:59:12,160
are held

1581
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:15,040
accountable now because they're not

1582
00:59:20,309 --> 00:59:18,079
gonna get more opportunities

1583
00:59:21,750 --> 00:59:20,319
you know it's it's time to win your

1584
00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:21,760
trust back now

1585
00:59:26,390 --> 00:59:24,960
it's been dragged on long enough if the

1586
00:59:29,349 --> 00:59:26,400
same pattern

1587
00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:29,359
repeats itself after all this buildup

1588
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:32,000
and it goes back to like we're in 1963

1589
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:35,520
or something you know that's going to be

1590
00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:36,559
a problem there's

1591
00:59:40,789 --> 00:59:38,640
alexander's going to have to to speak

1592
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:40,799
for himself and why that is

1593
00:59:47,030 --> 00:59:43,920
melon everybody uh corbell nap

1594
00:59:49,510 --> 00:59:47,040
if like but see the thing is even

1595
00:59:51,430 --> 00:59:49,520
alezando says three years down the road

1596
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:51,440
we'll still be doing this kind of stuff

1597
00:59:54,390 --> 00:59:53,200
like he's almost setting us up for a

1598
00:59:57,030 --> 00:59:54,400
long call there

1599
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:57,040
but the weird thing is is there's so

1600
01:00:01,829 --> 00:59:58,640
much

1601
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:01,839
uh momentum and then to say

1602
01:00:05,109 --> 01:00:04,640
like a three more year thing seems kind

1603
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:05,119
of

1604
01:00:12,150 --> 01:00:08,960
odd to me you know i feel like

1605
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:12,160
it needs to keep going in this direction

1606
01:00:15,990 --> 01:00:15,040
or uh to keep the momentum in the

1607
01:00:18,390 --> 01:00:16,000
community

1608
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:18,400
as powerful and as strong as it is and

1609
01:00:23,109 --> 01:00:20,240
connected right now

1610
01:00:24,470 --> 01:00:23,119
it needs to continue on on that path

1611
01:00:26,230 --> 01:00:24,480
look sean you know um

1612
01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:26,240
yeah we we talked about this i think

1613
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,510
if you look at motive why is there this

1614
01:00:39,430 --> 01:00:36,240
little civil war going on in the dod

1615
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:43,670
so publicly i don't think

1616
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:46,079
this is something they would want to put

1617
01:00:50,710 --> 01:00:47,760
out you know this is something you would

1618
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:50,720
uh rather sweep under the carpet or

1619
01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:51,440
something

1620
01:00:54,230 --> 01:00:52,480
yeah that's what they're good at

1621
01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:54,240
normally yeah that's what they're good

1622
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,200
at normally

1623
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:57,680
you you don't you know fight each other

1624
01:01:00,789 --> 01:00:58,480
in the street

1625
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,799
which is what go which is what what is

1626
01:01:05,990 --> 01:01:02,319
going on right now

1627
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:06,000
so to me uh what we talked on before

1628
01:01:09,670 --> 01:01:08,160
uh talked about before is like uh but

1629
01:01:10,470 --> 01:01:09,680
there wherever there their smoke there's

1630
01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:10,480
fire

1631
01:01:16,150 --> 01:01:13,520
so if mr elizondo

1632
01:01:16,710 --> 01:01:16,160
and mr mellon and mr reed are putting

1633
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:16,720
out

1634
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:20,000
a uh general public there's something

1635
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:22,000
going on in our skies and we don't know

1636
01:01:26,309 --> 01:01:23,280
what it is

1637
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:26,319
and the other side of the dod

1638
01:01:29,829 --> 01:01:29,119
and congress is hell-bent on not telling

1639
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:29,839
that

1640
01:01:32,950 --> 01:01:31,920
and they are fighting each other you

1641
01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:32,960
know uh

1642
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:36,319
i think the air force to be honest with

1643
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:36,960
you

1644
01:01:40,950 --> 01:01:39,599
all right as well i just want to jump in

1645
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,960
on that because what we're talking about

1646
01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:42,000
then with rick doherty and

1647
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:43,920
misinformation and disinformation

1648
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,920
was the air force it was the air force

1649
01:01:49,510 --> 01:01:47,839
officer special investigation

1650
01:01:51,030 --> 01:01:49,520
very different to what lou was involved

1651
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,040
in that um

1652
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,599
so you know i'll leave it at that as far

1653
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:55,200
as the comparison between doty and lou

1654
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:56,559
in the conversations that were had that

1655
01:01:59,430 --> 01:01:57,760
i haven't seen

1656
01:02:01,829 --> 01:01:59,440
directly i've just seen that backlash

1657
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:01,839
and everything today on twitter that

1658
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:03,760
signal here absolutely maximum we can't

1659
01:02:06,630 --> 01:02:05,920
reach the secret keep as we go for those

1660
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,640
closest

1661
01:02:10,870 --> 01:02:08,720
unfortunately to be honest the the

1662
01:02:11,190 --> 01:02:10,880
dottie conversation is a mute point to

1663
01:02:12,870 --> 01:02:11,200
me

1664
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,880
uh like what are we we're trying to

1665
01:02:16,710 --> 01:02:14,559
figure out if they will

1666
01:02:17,589 --> 01:02:16,720
do things to trick us to make us believe

1667
01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:17,599
certain things

1668
01:02:21,510 --> 01:02:19,680
we already know they've done it they do

1669
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:21,520
that they've done it

1670
01:02:24,870 --> 01:02:23,839
through the press in other ways like

1671
01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:24,880
that happens

1672
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:28,000
so proving that dottie did it is

1673
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:29,839
ridiculous because

1674
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:31,760
that sort of thing just like everything

1675
01:02:37,829 --> 01:02:34,559
else is not unique to the ufo community

1676
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:37,839
no not at all so if they'll do it

1677
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:38,799
somewhere

1678
01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:40,480
you know to a corporate company or

1679
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:42,319
whatever like they'll

1680
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:45,280
they'll do it here we know that so let's

1681
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:46,480
move past that

1682
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:50,079
and start opening our mind up

1683
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:52,880
and get past things like that so we can

1684
01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:53,359
actually

1685
01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:55,599
come up with good productive ideas

1686
01:03:00,309 --> 01:02:56,799
instead of just getting

1687
01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:00,319
stuck in these stupid topics

1688
01:03:03,910 --> 01:03:02,960
that won't really have an answer that'll

1689
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:03,920
get us anywhere

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01:03:07,190 --> 01:03:06,799
exactly man it's like a it just it's

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01:03:10,630 --> 01:03:07,200
like

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01:03:12,230 --> 01:03:10,640
mud we just want to move forward but

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01:03:16,069 --> 01:03:12,240
we're stuck in that moment and we

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01:03:19,190 --> 01:03:16,079
need to get past it dude i completely

1695
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:19,200
agree well well said my man and also

1696
01:03:23,750 --> 01:03:22,480
and also you know uh keep on uh writing

1697
01:03:29,349 --> 01:03:23,760
those foia letters

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01:03:31,109 --> 01:03:29,359
you know yeah send those owls man

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01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,119
yeah i think like because of the lull

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01:03:34,549 --> 01:03:33,280
that we're in right now since the 25th

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01:03:37,270 --> 01:03:34,559
of june and all that

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01:03:39,029 --> 01:03:37,280
we're in a little everyone's looking for

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01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:39,039
something to focus on and unfortunately

1704
01:03:41,349 --> 01:03:39,680
it's

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01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:41,359
bringing people a little bit more into

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01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:43,920
the the little spats and stuff it does

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01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:45,599
it does we've seen it before

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01:03:48,870 --> 01:03:47,280
you're gonna you're getting people that

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01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:48,880
um they're patients

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01:03:53,829 --> 01:03:51,119
and you know basically what it is is

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01:03:56,230 --> 01:03:53,839
their click bait has run out

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01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:56,240
and now they're pissed yeah you know

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01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:57,599
like i have nothing

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01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:59,760
to look at to keep me excited in this

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01:04:04,309 --> 01:04:00,720
anymore

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01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:04,319
and that's pissing me off so

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01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:06,559
i think this is all just bull crap

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01:04:09,270 --> 01:04:08,240
remember you know like that's how it

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01:04:13,109 --> 01:04:09,280
goes with people

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01:04:16,150 --> 01:04:13,119
you know yeah yeah or vice versa people

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01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:16,160
you know will cling on to something else

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01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:18,000
whatever theory they have is going on

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01:04:22,630 --> 01:04:19,599
right now but the thing is

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01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:22,640
we are here it's been uh

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01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:25,599
an obvious plan for the past three years

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01:04:29,349 --> 01:04:26,880
or four years

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01:04:30,230 --> 01:04:29,359
that has brought us to this point you

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01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:30,240
know

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01:04:36,549 --> 01:04:33,520
and it there is

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01:04:36,950 --> 01:04:36,559
whatever the end result or the sum of

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01:04:39,990 --> 01:04:36,960
this

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01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:40,000
is we may not know

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01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,400
until it happens but the fact is there

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01:04:46,150 --> 01:04:44,160
is something

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01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:46,160
yeah going on that's leading to a

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01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:47,599
tipping point

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01:04:50,710 --> 01:04:49,839
right and whatever it is has yet to be

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01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:50,720
determined

1739
01:04:58,069 --> 01:04:55,119
but there is i felt this last year

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01:04:59,910 --> 01:04:58,079
i could see it i saw something literally

1741
01:05:02,950 --> 01:04:59,920
but then as i paid attention

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01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,960
i could see something was happening that

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01:05:05,750 --> 01:05:04,000
was important

1744
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,760
and i remember telling my mom like yeah

1745
01:05:09,270 --> 01:05:07,440
i'm doing this podcast because

1746
01:05:11,190 --> 01:05:09,280
i want to do something that's important

1747
01:05:12,710 --> 01:05:11,200
with my life and i have a feeling

1748
01:05:16,309 --> 01:05:12,720
something happening

1749
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:16,319
something is happening here i agree bro

1750
01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:18,079
look at how important it's been for you

1751
01:05:20,870 --> 01:05:19,920
as well look at where you are man i am

1752
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:20,880
so

1753
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:23,200
impressed with what you've done in such

1754
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:24,559
a short amount of time since

1755
01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:27,680
last year and i'm honored to call you a

1756
01:05:31,990 --> 01:05:29,839
friend and a colleague in this as well

1757
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:32,000
you know you really are for the both of

1758
01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:32,960
you

1759
01:05:42,150 --> 01:05:38,160
i'm gonna

1760
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:42,160
gone through the a-tip slides and

1761
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:43,920
let's do this again let's do exactly

1762
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:45,200
what we've done with another

1763
01:05:50,150 --> 01:05:47,280
maybe we'll do the wilson davis memo or

1764
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,160
something next

1765
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,240
i have a lot to say about that one me

1766
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:54,640
too bro

1767
01:05:58,309 --> 01:05:57,280
let's do a weekly or bi-weekly examine

1768
01:06:00,950 --> 01:05:58,319
of something

1769
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,960
together yeah that's a great idea and by

1770
01:06:05,029 --> 01:06:02,240
the way let's plug

1771
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:05,039
the big phone home part two absolutely

1772
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,480
early september

1773
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,079
i can't quite remember the dates off the

1774
01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:09,680
top of my head it's around the start the

1775
01:06:13,510 --> 01:06:11,280
third fourth something like that

1776
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,520
the big phone home this is something i

1777
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:15,359
know you guys last year for that did i i

1778
01:06:18,789 --> 01:06:16,240
made a

1779
01:06:20,710 --> 01:06:18,799
song for it well that's the thing we

1780
01:06:21,670 --> 01:06:20,720
didn't i mean i didn't know max then he

1781
01:06:24,950 --> 01:06:21,680
was honest

1782
01:06:27,029 --> 01:06:24,960
the big phone yeah man and now look at

1783
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:27,039
us we're going into this

1784
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:29,200
buddies like yeah i love it it's going

1785
01:06:32,789 --> 01:06:31,039
to be bigger and better than last time

1786
01:06:34,390 --> 01:06:32,799
for everyone watching this now everyone

1787
01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,400
that watches this afterwards it's still

1788
01:06:38,390 --> 01:06:35,839
the same old thing

1789
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:38,400
you can make a difference you can email

1790
01:06:46,230 --> 01:06:39,200
call

1791
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:46,240
send those owls

1792
01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,200
you know you just shared a ross uh video

1793
01:06:51,670 --> 01:06:51,039
where he said congressional hearings

1794
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:51,680
he's like

1795
01:06:54,950 --> 01:06:53,599
you know it's not a given it doesn't

1796
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:54,960
have to happen

1797
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:57,680
like they need to be pressured to put

1798
01:07:01,589 --> 01:06:58,799
this together

1799
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,599
and you need to contact these

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01:07:04,470 --> 01:07:02,640
representatives

1801
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,480
so whether it's a call or email they

1802
01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:06,480
need to know how bad you want

1803
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,480
congressional public hearings to happen

1804
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:10,559
or they're not going to do it definitely

1805
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:12,079
it's all good getting hearings but we

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01:07:15,430 --> 01:07:12,400
need

1807
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:15,440
public hearings yeah and our audience

1808
01:07:19,109 --> 01:07:18,160
you guys are making the difference

1809
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:19,119
vinnie's fans

1810
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,920
finnish audience sean's audience you are

1811
01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,119
doing the work

1812
01:07:27,029 --> 01:07:25,680
we love you guys please keep on

1813
01:07:30,150 --> 01:07:27,039
following

1814
01:07:31,430 --> 01:07:30,160
us and subscribe to vinnie subscribe to

1815
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:31,440
sean

1816
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:35,280
maybe me and

1817
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:39,920
you know we'll try we'll try to

1818
01:07:45,430 --> 01:07:43,119
keep on covering whatever this is that's

1819
01:07:47,109 --> 01:07:45,440
why we're doing what we're doing man so

1820
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:47,119
sean before we go tell us what you've

1821
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:48,640
got coming up in the next few days or

1822
01:07:51,910 --> 01:07:49,680
the next week

1823
01:07:53,349 --> 01:07:51,920
yeah i got a lot of cool stuff coming

1824
01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:53,359
saturday i have

1825
01:07:57,510 --> 01:07:56,400
uh mike d'amate with punk rock and ufos

1826
01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:57,520
i had him on

1827
01:08:01,029 --> 01:07:59,920
early in my show uh when i had like

1828
01:08:04,069 --> 01:08:01,039
maybe

1829
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:04,079
30 subscribers so and i i

1830
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:06,880
he's he does really great stuff so i

1831
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:08,799
wanted to bring him back

1832
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:10,880
um so that's happening on saturday at 4

1833
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:11,920
00 central

1834
01:08:15,990 --> 01:08:14,640
on tuesday i have a really really

1835
01:08:17,910 --> 01:08:16,000
exciting big day

1836
01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:17,920
um first of all it's going to be a night

1837
01:08:22,550 --> 01:08:19,279
show

1838
01:08:26,070 --> 01:08:22,560
and i'm going live with uh steve bassett

1839
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:26,080
at 7 30 central time and right after

1840
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:27,120
that

1841
01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:28,640
uh ross coldheart is going to be

1842
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,510
i told steve bassett dude ufo twitter

1843
01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:39,120
needs you right now you need to come

1844
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:39,600
back

1845
01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:42,719
i agree you know oh i agree so

1846
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,159
he's always uh optimistic and um has a

1847
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:47,759
great way of looking at things so and i

1848
01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:49,199
think we need that so i'm trying to get

1849
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:51,520
him back on and he's doing it

1850
01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:54,400
sean that's amazing bro i cannot wait

1851
01:08:56,709 --> 01:08:55,839
another thing that you discussed with me

1852
01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:56,719
recently was a

1853
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:58,640
like a panel discussion around ross

1854
01:09:01,590 --> 01:08:59,839
coulthard's book

1855
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,600
yes is that happening can you tell us

1856
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:03,199
anything about that yeah that's

1857
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,719
next week on the

1858
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:09,600
thursday next week actually cool um so

1859
01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:10,400
yeah

1860
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:11,839
i know you read the book you're welcome

1861
01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:18,709
but uh engaging the phenomenon james it

1862
01:09:22,070 --> 01:09:19,440
will be on

1863
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:22,080
and we'll be discussing it so it's going

1864
01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:23,199
to be pretty cool

1865
01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:24,960
well speaking of james this is the thing

1866
01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:26,480
because we've just discussed

1867
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:29,040
the atip slides tonight and it sounds

1868
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,319
like a few people in the comments here

1869
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:32,319
want to see us do the wilson davis memo

1870
01:09:36,709 --> 01:09:32,560
i

1871
01:09:39,110 --> 01:09:36,719
that

1872
01:09:40,470 --> 01:09:39,120
so yeah yeah let's make it happen i'll

1873
01:09:41,990 --> 01:09:40,480
reach out to james

1874
01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:42,000
i was speaking to him yesterday so i'm

1875
01:09:44,229 --> 01:09:43,440
sure he'd be up for it it's just making

1876
01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:44,239
a date

1877
01:09:48,229 --> 01:09:46,880
where we can all join together so max

1878
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:48,239
before we go have you got anything

1879
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:49,839
coming up you want to plug

1880
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:52,880
no not really okay bro i know

1881
01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,640
the thing is with max i know and i think

1882
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:56,080
everyone else knows that behind the

1883
01:09:58,310 --> 01:09:56,880
scenes

1884
01:10:00,149 --> 01:09:58,320
he slips it in there he's got his

1885
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:00,159
fingers in some pies whoops

1886
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:08,390
i'll give a little

1887
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:11,990
hint just you don't have to but

1888
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:16,239
but if you guys remember

1889
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:19,920
i interviewed harry reid i

1890
01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:23,600
got something equivalent to that

1891
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,239
yes i agree let's leave it at that

1892
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:27,920
because donald trump

1893
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:42,630
melissa guys thank you so much sean it's

1894
01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:44,000
been an absolute honor to speak thank

1895
01:10:48,390 --> 01:10:44,880
you

1896
01:10:51,030 --> 01:10:48,400
for jumping on as always

1897
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:51,040
i think together we are we are better

1898
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:52,800
you know

1899
01:11:01,110 --> 01:11:00,070
i don't trump that i don't like that

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01:11:04,149 --> 01:11:01,120
space stuff

1901
01:11:05,030 --> 01:11:04,159
now listen we're going to continue you

1902
01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:05,040
guys

1903
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:06,510
we'll do this

1904
01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:13,830
really good um max we we will be also

1905
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:15,120
i'm just going to say before we go we

1906
01:11:20,149 --> 01:11:15,679
will

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01:11:21,430 --> 01:11:20,159
more episodes of the maxim vinnie uap

1908
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:21,440
show we've been working behind the

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01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,000
scenes

1910
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:24,719
to get that uh happening it's a lot

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01:11:29,350 --> 01:11:26,480
harder because of

1912
01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:29,360
finding people new cases things like

1913
01:11:32,070 --> 01:11:30,400
that but we've got two

1914
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:32,080
aren't you choosing the name we are

1915
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:33,199
changing the name we're going to

1916
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:34,080
re-brand

1917
01:11:53,430 --> 01:11:36,080
because it's going to be the three of us

1918
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:56,470
let's um i'm gonna actually

1919
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,840
for anyone that is actually watching

1920
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:59,360
live right now i am going to be jumping

1921
01:12:02,390 --> 01:12:00,960
straight onto instagram after this

1922
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:02,400
if you want to come on continue the

1923
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:04,239
conversation you're both welcome as well

1924
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,840
i'm going to go on live on instagram

1925
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,960
but thank you everyone that's been

1926
01:12:09,430 --> 01:12:08,320
watching here live tonight thank you

1927
01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,440
everyone that watches this

1928
01:12:13,830 --> 01:12:11,280
after the fact i appreciate the

1929
01:12:17,270 --> 01:12:13,840
continued support go and subscribe to

1930
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,280
sean go and subscribe to max this is all

1931
01:12:20,950 --> 01:12:19,199
mirrored

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01:12:22,870 --> 01:12:20,960
love you guys so much thank you so much

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01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:22,880
for joining me tonight and um

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01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:25,920
speak to you guys soon no doubt love you